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As was shown by \\textit{W. M. Kantor} and \\textit{A. Lubotzky} [Geom. Dedicata 36, No. 1, 67--87 (1990; Zbl 0718.20011)], the excess of groups is not bounded in general. However, answering a conjecture of Pak, \\textit{A. Lubotzky} [J. Algebra 257, No. 2, 452--459 (2002; Zbl 1042.20047)] and \\textit{E. Detomi} and the author [J. Algebra 265, No. 2, 651--668 (2003; Zbl 1072.20031)] showed that  \\[ \\mathrm{ex}(G)\\leq (e-1)d(G)+O(\\log\\log|G|). \\]  In this paper, the author uses a different approach to the study of \\(e_1(G)\\) and \\(\\mathrm{ex}(G)\\). Precisely, he uses the theory of M\u00f6bius functions of subgroup lattices of groups to obtain formulas for \\(e_1(G)\\), \\(e_2(G)\\) and \\(\\mathrm{ex}(G)\\), for instance,  \\[ e_1(G)=-\\sum_{H< G}\\frac{\\mu_G(H)|G|}{|G|-|H|} \\]   \\[ e_2(G)=-\\sum_{H< G}\\frac{\\mu_G(H)|G|(|G|+|H|)}{(|G|-|H|)^2} \\]   \\[ \\mathrm{ex}(G)=-\\sum_{H< G}\\frac{\\mu_G(H)}{[G:H]^{d(G)}} \\frac{|G|}{|G|-|H|} \\]  Using such formulas, the author obtains some bounds for \\(e_1(G)\\) and \\(e_2(G)\\) when \\(G\\) is a nonabelian finite simple group or a finite symmetric group. 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