A note on normal generation and generation of groups

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Abstract: In this note we study sets of normal generators of finitely presented residually p-finite groups. We show that if an infinite, finitely presented, residually p-finite group G is normally generated by g1,dots,gk with order n1,dots,nkin1,2,dotscupinfty, then �eta_1^{(2)}(G) leq k-1-sum_{i=1}^{k} frac1{n_i}, where denotes the first ell2-Betti number of G. We also show that any k-generated group with must have girth greater than or equal 1/varepsilon.











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