Nicely generated and chaotic ideals

DOI10.1090/S0002-9939-96-03287-XMaRDI QIDQ4896173zbMATH OpenFDO

Authors Jörg Brendle

Publication date 28 October 1999

Published in Proceedings of the American Mathematical Society (Search for Journal in Brave)

Full work available at URL https://arxiv.org/abs/math/9407208

zbMATH Keywords

meager idealreal linenull setsrandom realCohen realisomorphism typedisjoint union of meager sets

Mathematics Subject Classification ID

Classes of sets (Borel fields, (sigma)-rings, etc.), measurable sets, Suslin sets, analytic sets (28A05) Other combinatorial set theory (03E05) Other aspects of forcing and Boolean-valued models (03E40) Descriptive set theory (topological aspects of Borel, analytic, projective, etc. sets) (54H05)

Abstract: We show that if the real line is the disjoint union of kappa meager sets such that every meager set is contained in a countable union of them, then kappa = omega_1. This answers a question addressed by J. Cichon. We also prove two theorems saying roughly that any attempt to produce the isomorphism type of the meager ideal in the Cohen real and the random real extensions must fail. All our results hold for "meager" replaced by "null", as well.

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