Monotone hulls for N M

DOI10.1007/S10998-014-0042-3MaRDI QIDQ484561zbMATH OpenOpenAlexFDO

Authors Andrzej Rosłanowski, S. Shelah

Publication date 7 January 2015

Published in Periodica Mathematica Hungarica (Search for Journal in Brave)

Full work available at URL https://arxiv.org/abs/1007.5368

zbMATH Keywords

Borel sets\(\omega_2\)-chaindecisive creatures

Mathematics Subject Classification ID

Descriptive set theory (03E15) Consistency and independence results (03E35) Cardinal characteristics of the continuum (03E17)

Abstract: Using the method of decisive creatures (math.LO/0601083) we show the consistency of "there is no increasing omega_2 --chain of Borel sets and non(N)=non(M)= omega_2=2^omega". Hence, consistently, there are no monotone hulls for the ideal M cap N . This answers Balcerzak and Filipczak. Next we use FS iteration with partial memory to show that there may be monotone Borel hulls for the ideals M, N even if they are not generated by towers.

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