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It is consistent that \(\mathfrak b=\mathfrak c=\aleph_3\), there exists a~\(\Pi^1_2\)~\(\omega\)-mad family, and there exists a~\(\Delta^1_3\)-definable well-order of the reals [\textit{V. Fischer} et al., Ann. Pure Appl. Logic 162, No. 11, 853--862 (2011; Zbl 1267.03049)]. For any uncountable regular cardinal~\(\kappa\), it is consistent that \(\mathfrak b=\mathfrak c=\kappa\) and there exists a~\(\Pi^1_1\)~mad family [\textit{J. Brendle} and \textit{Y. Khomskii}, J. Symb. Log. 78, No. 4, 1164--1180 (2013; Zbl 1375.03057)]. The paper under review is concerned with the question to what extent these two consistency results can be merged together. The main theorem of the paper shows the consistency of \(\mathfrak b=\mathfrak c=\aleph_3\), the existence of a~\(\Pi^1_1\)~mad family, and the existence of a~\(\Delta^1_3\)-definable well-order of the reals.
Property / review text: It is consistent that \(\mathfrak b=\mathfrak c=\aleph_3\), there exists a~\(\Pi^1_2\)~\(\omega\)-mad family, and there exists a~\(\Delta^1_3\)-definable well-order of the reals [\textit{V. Fischer} et al., Ann. Pure Appl. Logic 162, No. 11, 853--862 (2011; Zbl 1267.03049)]. For any uncountable regular cardinal~\(\kappa\), it is consistent that \(\mathfrak b=\mathfrak c=\kappa\) and there exists a~\(\Pi^1_1\)~mad family [\textit{J. Brendle} and \textit{Y. Khomskii}, J. Symb. Log. 78, No. 4, 1164--1180 (2013; Zbl 1375.03057)]. The paper under review is concerned with the question to what extent these two consistency results can be merged together. The main theorem of the paper shows the consistency of \(\mathfrak b=\mathfrak c=\aleph_3\), the existence of a~\(\Pi^1_1\)~mad family, and the existence of a~\(\Delta^1_3\)-definable well-order of the reals. / rank
 
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projective well-orders
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projective mad families
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    6 November 2013
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    It is consistent that \(\mathfrak b=\mathfrak c=\aleph_3\), there exists a~\(\Pi^1_2\)~\(\omega\)-mad family, and there exists a~\(\Delta^1_3\)-definable well-order of the reals [\textit{V. Fischer} et al., Ann. Pure Appl. Logic 162, No. 11, 853--862 (2011; Zbl 1267.03049)]. For any uncountable regular cardinal~\(\kappa\), it is consistent that \(\mathfrak b=\mathfrak c=\kappa\) and there exists a~\(\Pi^1_1\)~mad family [\textit{J. Brendle} and \textit{Y. Khomskii}, J. Symb. Log. 78, No. 4, 1164--1180 (2013; Zbl 1375.03057)]. The paper under review is concerned with the question to what extent these two consistency results can be merged together. The main theorem of the paper shows the consistency of \(\mathfrak b=\mathfrak c=\aleph_3\), the existence of a~\(\Pi^1_1\)~mad family, and the existence of a~\(\Delta^1_3\)-definable well-order of the reals.
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    projective well-orders
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    projective mad families
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    large continuum
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