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The authors give an example of a monoid with finitely many left and right ideals, all of whose Schützenberger groups are presentable by finite complete rewriting systems, and so each has finite derivation type (the property FDT), but such that the monoid itself does not have finite derivation type, and therefore does not admit a presentation by a finite complete rewriting system. The example allows us to construct two finitely generated monoids \(M\) and \(N\) with isometric Cayley graphs, where \(N\) has finite derivation type (respectively, admits a presentation by a finite complete rewriting system) but \(M\) does not. This contrasts with the case of finitely generated groups for which the property FDT is known to be a quasi-isometry invariant [see \textit{J. M. Alonso}, J. Pure Appl. Algebra 95, No. 2, 121-129 (1994; Zbl 0823.20034); \textit{R. Cremanns} and \textit{F. Otto}, J. Symb. Comput. 22, No. 2, 155-177 (1996; Zbl 0874.20019)]. The same example is also used to show that neither of these two properties is preserved under finite Green index extensions. In group theory the property of being definable by a finite complete rewriting system and the property FDT are known to be preserved when taking finite index extensions [see \textit{K. S. Brown}, Cohomology of groups. Graduate Texts in Mathematics 87. New York-Heidelberg-Berlin: Springer-Verlag (1982; Zbl 0584.20036), Prop. 5.1; \textit{J. R. J. Groves} and \textit{G. C. Smith}, Proc. Edinb. Math. Soc., II. Ser. 36, No. 2, 283-288 (1993; Zbl 0806.20030)].
Property / review text: The authors give an example of a monoid with finitely many left and right ideals, all of whose Schützenberger groups are presentable by finite complete rewriting systems, and so each has finite derivation type (the property FDT), but such that the monoid itself does not have finite derivation type, and therefore does not admit a presentation by a finite complete rewriting system. The example allows us to construct two finitely generated monoids \(M\) and \(N\) with isometric Cayley graphs, where \(N\) has finite derivation type (respectively, admits a presentation by a finite complete rewriting system) but \(M\) does not. This contrasts with the case of finitely generated groups for which the property FDT is known to be a quasi-isometry invariant [see \textit{J. M. Alonso}, J. Pure Appl. Algebra 95, No. 2, 121-129 (1994; Zbl 0823.20034); \textit{R. Cremanns} and \textit{F. Otto}, J. Symb. Comput. 22, No. 2, 155-177 (1996; Zbl 0874.20019)]. The same example is also used to show that neither of these two properties is preserved under finite Green index extensions. In group theory the property of being definable by a finite complete rewriting system and the property FDT are known to be preserved when taking finite index extensions [see \textit{K. S. Brown}, Cohomology of groups. Graduate Texts in Mathematics 87. New York-Heidelberg-Berlin: Springer-Verlag (1982; Zbl 0584.20036), Prop. 5.1; \textit{J. R. J. Groves} and \textit{G. C. Smith}, Proc. Edinb. Math. Soc., II. Ser. 36, No. 2, 283-288 (1993; Zbl 0806.20030)]. / rank
 
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complete rewriting systems
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finitely presented groups
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finitely presented monoids
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finite derivation type
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    The authors give an example of a monoid with finitely many left and right ideals, all of whose Schützenberger groups are presentable by finite complete rewriting systems, and so each has finite derivation type (the property FDT), but such that the monoid itself does not have finite derivation type, and therefore does not admit a presentation by a finite complete rewriting system. The example allows us to construct two finitely generated monoids \(M\) and \(N\) with isometric Cayley graphs, where \(N\) has finite derivation type (respectively, admits a presentation by a finite complete rewriting system) but \(M\) does not. This contrasts with the case of finitely generated groups for which the property FDT is known to be a quasi-isometry invariant [see \textit{J. M. Alonso}, J. Pure Appl. Algebra 95, No. 2, 121-129 (1994; Zbl 0823.20034); \textit{R. Cremanns} and \textit{F. Otto}, J. Symb. Comput. 22, No. 2, 155-177 (1996; Zbl 0874.20019)]. The same example is also used to show that neither of these two properties is preserved under finite Green index extensions. In group theory the property of being definable by a finite complete rewriting system and the property FDT are known to be preserved when taking finite index extensions [see \textit{K. S. Brown}, Cohomology of groups. Graduate Texts in Mathematics 87. New York-Heidelberg-Berlin: Springer-Verlag (1982; Zbl 0584.20036), Prop. 5.1; \textit{J. R. J. Groves} and \textit{G. C. Smith}, Proc. Edinb. Math. Soc., II. Ser. 36, No. 2, 283-288 (1993; Zbl 0806.20030)].
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    complete rewriting systems
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    finitely presented groups
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    finitely presented monoids
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    homotopy bases
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    finite derivation type
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    Schützenberger groups
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