d-wise generation of prosolvable groups.

DOI10.1016/J.JALGEBRA.2012.07.014MaRDI QIDQ1946099zbMATH OpenOpenAlexFDO

Authors Eleonora Crestani, Andrea Lucchini

Publication date 17 April 2013

Published in Journal of Algebra (Search for Journal in Brave)

Full work available at URL https://doi.org/10.1016/j.jalgebra.2012.07.014

zbMATH Keywords

\(d\)-wise generationsfinite groupsgenerating graphsprofinite groupsprosolvable groupstopological groups

Mathematics Subject Classification ID

Graphs and abstract algebra (groups, rings, fields, etc.) (05C25) Canonical forms, reductions, classification (15A21) Finite solvable groups, theory of formations, Schunck classes, Fitting classes, (pi)-length, ranks (20D10) Limits, profinite groups (20E18) Generators, relations, and presentations of groups (20F05)

Review text

Given a topological group \(G\), and \(d\geq 2\), let \(\mu_d(G)\) denote the largest \(m\) for which there exists an \(m\)-tuple of elements of \(G\) such that any \(d\)-tuple extracted from it generates \(G\) (as a topological group). In the paper under review the authors obtain a lower bound for \(\mu_d(G)\) for \(G\) prosoluble. From this it follows that if \(G\) is \(d\)-generated, then \(\mu_d(G)-d\) tends to infinity as the smallest prime divisor of \(|G|\) tends to infinity. The authors call the attention to an intriguing problem in linear algebra that underlies this question. Let \(F\) be a finite field, \(t\geq d>0\) integers, and \(A_1,\dots,A_t\) matrices over \(F\). Suppose that for all \(1\leq i_1<\cdots<i_d\leq t\) the \(n\times nd\) matrix \((A_{i_1},\dots,A_{i_d})\) has maximum rank \(n\). Is it always possible to find matrices \(B_1,\dots,B_t\) of dimension \(n(d-1)\times n\) over \(F\) such that the square matrices obtained by putting \((A_{i_1},\dots,A_{i_d})\) on top of \((B_{i_1},\dots,B_{i_d})\) have non-zero determinant for all \(1\leq i_1<\cdots<i_d\leq t\)? In general, the answer is negative, but it would be interesting to prove positive results for certain values of the parameters. We refer to the paper for a detailed discussion.

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